First, If you take a ship from a friendly empire using flyby you only get the rep loss from the ship being taken rather than all the surface elements being destroyed bit by bit and taking load of rep losses. I am indeed. rep loss for boarding ships is way too low. The problem is that right now rep loss is often hardcoded in and happens instantly, regardless of where and under which circumstances it takes place. so it is intentional that boarding suffers less rep loss then even attacking said ship? just seems really weird that we can steal a flagship of an empire with no hit, at the very least should be equal to destroying said ship, if not alittle higher, i personally avoid abusing the fly by boarding method personally, though i am very active in piracy as i still love the mechanics involved, wonder. My allies will blow up ships even while my marines are onboard, and I have to micro-manage my units to stop them from blowing up the target while the boarding is going on. Without rep loss. So, either. ago 16 comments. Bringing your marines on the ship is probably one of the easiest boarding tasks you’ll ever have, as the Ozias is very slow, very big, and completely unarmed. This forum is the ideal place for all discussion relating to X4. Post by Tranxalive » Thu, 30. Got 2 disabled SCA ships I'm working on capping and wanted to take the opportunity to also cap the ANT freighter they were harassing. Coreblimey Posts: 1170 Joined: Wed, 25. 256 megs of toast. Dec 20, 00:49 [Feature Request] Destroying Ships in Self-Defense without Rep. Mar 23, 15:59. rep loss for boarding ships is way too low. X, and in the current ToA extended tutorial, I mean story campaign, it mentions heavy rep losses for boarding. Surface elements are turrets, engines and shields (you can destroy main weapons on destroyers as well but you cannot target them individually. Dec 20, 00:49 [Feature Request] Destroying Ships in Self-Defense without Rep. if you are refering to fly bly boarding without actually harming the targeted vessel, that is not an exploit. Are the SCA reporting my actions, or what? Didn't see. the new factions are half baked. Date Posted: Mar 25 @ 11:20pm. Max out remaining crew space with Marines. Moderator: Moderators for English X Forum. Moderator: Moderators for English X Forum. Is there a way to perform those actions with a minimal hit to my rep as I don't want to have to re-climb back up to +20?Depends on their relation with the target faction. Post by JackXx » Sat, 4. I was able to board multiple times Asgards in paranid sectors, and didn't gor any rep loss from the terrans (the paranids even helped me, because the Asgard shot first- i started the boarding without shooting). Post by. Dec 20, 00:49 [Feature Request] Destroying Ships in Self-Defense without Rep. #2. Or are you starting with ships that are neutral to you? In either case, Destroyer's aren't ideal boarding vessels. Top. X4: Foundations. Loss. Scanning all 4 from your suit (in scan mode) will give you the blueprints. Then just wait and the ship will be yours without you ever firing a shot. Are the SCA reporting my actions, or what? Didn't see any distress drones launch. Feb 23, 16:31This forum is the ideal place for all discussion relating to X4. 24 posts 1; 2; Next; Falcrack Posts: 4471 Joined: Tue, 28. Asgard are IMO pretty easy to board, but even a Raptor with like 1/3 crew is something like 5k power, so probably more economical to board other ships. Boarding a ship should also cause a heavy rep hit. 16 posts • Page 1 of 1. 16 posts • Page 1 of 1. JackXx Posts: 6 Joined: Thu, 2. Took me a long time to do that. I've been ordering my ships to kill cloaked pirates while OOS all the time and haven't noticed any permanent rep loss (you still get the normal -30 with the ship, but it doesn't. In case you don't know, fly by boarding is a boarding method that will allow you to capture ships without rep loss. Thugs. Mar 22, 08:44. As I started shooting out sub-systs on the ANT freighter, I took permanent rep hit. You will also find additional information from developers here. X4: Foundations. Scan a ship like a Zeus or Supply ship (worth the money). Rep gain is determined by amount of trades, not volume or worth. Note that detonating the bomb will also make the station temporarily hostile. Somehow I'm losing rep with argon. Took me a long time to do that. Feb 23, 20:44. This! If we doesn`t get rep. Apr 23, 02:15This forum is the ideal place for all discussion relating to X4. RainerPrem wrote: In AP you immediately lose 1% hull. Select your bomb, target one of the mines, not the station and eject. I. If you google "x4 guide to stealing blueprints" it gets into the whole process from beginning to end, as well as how to identify station parts, opening up black markets, all sorts of stuff related to being a blueprint thief. I'm trying to cap an ANT freighter out in empty space (no stations of any kind at all near me). Posts: 5577 Joined: Sat, 10. With high level marines (specifically 1. No MIN will not go hostile with you for killing SCA ships. This forum is the ideal place for all discussion relating to X4. The boarding system seems very clunky, to put it mildly. Ship capture without rep los. the marines will take fire as they approach and it will take them longer to infiltrate but if you succeed it won't have the same risk of destroying the ship. JackXx Posts: 6 Joined: Thu, 2. This one are only there to recruit new Marines to transfer to the Boarding ships if the Marines there get killed or promoted. You will also find additional information from developers here. It is possible, but you can't shoot, attack or otherwise damage the ship you're boarding (or any of the surface elements), directly, indirectly or otherwise. I finally wanted to get into piracy, but outside of ZEN/KAK I'm already friends with everyone at +20 and don't want to drop below that if it's possible. Hull HP only gives a timer till boarding begins after the pods attach— so don’t worry about it. As I started shooting out sub-systs on the ANT freighter, I took permanent rep hit. A fighter can come by here and there but it makes no difference. If I attack that ship. - if you have high rep with a faction just board its ship anywhere, I boarded PMC Rahana and rep -1 only from 24 to 23, aplicable to all factions I think And missions: - and use Mission computer MOD to easy access to a list of all mission in zone, and search for „Stop the snitch“ and similar ones, it is mission to destroy a capital ship, Of course, they're pirates so you will still lose rep with their actual faction. You do lose rep with FRF if you kill FAF within 30 km of any of their stations. Joined: Mon, 14. building) before boarding and complete them after boarding, you restore or almost restore your reputation. Set your ship's default action to Maintain Distance, use the max number of marines, set both boarding limits to Very Strong, and let your guys board. (or you don't) Btw, if you board a carrier with fighters docked, you also own the docked fighters. Jul 09, 22:46. Multi ship boarding. This forum is the ideal place for all discussion relating to X4. Ship capture without rep los. The normal method means a reputation loss, this way I don't kill any modules, so no rep loss. How to do it, you might ask. 24 posts 1; 2; Next; Falcrack Posts: 4505 Joined: Tue, 28. Ship capture without rep los. You lose reputation every so many seconds during the conflict to board the ship. I'm quite literally on the verge of going genocidal on them both because they're annoying me. 0 HF3, this wasn't always the case) “Unauthorized kills” Unauthorized kills are detected anywhere in the universe. Feb 23, 16:31I finally wanted to get into piracy, but outside of ZEN/KAK I'm already friends with everyone at +20 and don't want to drop below that if it's possible. I didn't try to do it with the turrets disabled, but maybe the constructors wouldn't survive without swathing the flies for so long. Feb 23, 15:06. Are the SCA reporting my actions, or what? Didn't see any distress drones launch. Is there a way to perform those actions with a minimal hit to my rep as I don't want to have to re-climb back up to +20?This forum is the ideal place for all discussion relating to X4. A squad of 10 (s) fighters decided to slow boat to the scene giving me attack notifications for 10 minutes or so. 5 posts • Page 1 of 1. This can lead to a death spiral, where your. 1 Dragon- Medium Preset, then change the weapons and crew. This forum is the ideal place for all discussion relating to X4. rep loss for boarding ships is way too low. You can board a ship and sell it back to the owner. You will also find additional information from developers here. Jul 09, 22:46. JackXx Posts: 6 Joined: Thu, 2. Moderator: Moderators for English X Forum. Feb 23, 15:06. My actions in such cases largely depend on a judgement about how replaceable the marines I'm using are, set against potential faction rep loss if I eliminate the attacking ship(s) & how difficult it might be to get that rep back. 4K Share. I wouldn't say pause is cheesing as agreed, this game doesn't allow prep hence pause is needed. Concurrent player numbers are at their highest level since the release of the base game in November 2018, and we've been receiving fantastic feedback on a. Posts: 170 Joined: Mon, 14. Jul 18, 21:20. General Electric #119T53 Toaster with Stapled-On celeron chipset. Moderator: Moderators for English X Forum. Post by pref » Sun, 6. A fighter can come by here and there but it makes no difference. This forum is the ideal place for all discussion relating to X4. Moderator: Moderators for English X Forum. Feb 23, 15:06. It should be the same as setting off the EMP Bomb. ZYA asked to destroy another ARG Defence Platform. Post by Tranxalive » Thu, 30. Mar 23, 15:59This forum is the ideal place for all discussion relating to X4. In another thread that I can't find now, someone mentioned that NPC faction fleet size is controlled partly by the number of sectors they own. Boarding Split is impossible. Parasus. 9 posts • Page 1 of 1. You will also find additional information from developers here. JackXx Posts: 6 Joined: Thu, 2. Post by JackXx » Sat, 4. Without rep loss. Hi, i'm relatively new in X4 and X games in general, i've played around a hundred of hour now, i've created 4 stations, each of them making me money, but it isn't enough to cover any L ship loss in the war against Xenon My biggest station is doing Smart Chips, Hull parts and Spacefuel (This is the station you get with a quest) The second one is only Silicon Wafers, small money for a small. Post by pref » Sun, 6. Feb 23, 15:06. This even gets worse. Dec 20, 00:49 [Feature Request] Destroying Ships in Self-Defense without Rep. Feb 23, 16:31The boarding system seems very clunky, to put it mildly. The ship radar isn't listed as a surface element or selectable but they can be nuked and they have about the same hit. Moderator: Moderators for English X Forum. You will also find additional information from developers here. Target the bomb and reverse or fly at least 3km away. rep loss for boarding ships is way too low. JackXx Posts: 6 Joined: Thu, 2. 6M. Got 2 disabled SCA ships I'm working on capping and wanted to take the opportunity to also cap the ANT freighter they were harassing. Moderator: Moderators for English X Forum. There may be other factors, such as comms traffic etc. Get back into your ship. Moderator: Moderators for English X Forum. It does take a long time, but you can board without loosing reputation if you do it this way, so you can just take any ship you want from anyone. Post by JackXx » Sat, 4. This forum is the ideal place for all discussion relating to X4. Feb 23, 16:31This forum is the ideal place for all discussion relating to X4. A random number is rolled modified by the ratio of the defender and attacking strength. I just got back into playing X4 and I’m on a new save. Sure, it gets hostile for a while, and may even shoot at you. Apr 16 @ 12:47pm Originally posted by Parasus: Oh if i play with or without mods does change anythink at the rep lose! maybe we use the same mod ^^ #5. Aug 10, 15:48. You will also find additional information from developers here. If a ship is smuggling in your space or attacks your assets in neutral territory, you should be left alone for killing it. I don't get the rep loss for that but I DO get rep loss every time I kill one of the Laser Towers or Defense Drones that the VIG ship releases. Ship capture without rep los. Additionally, as you've seen, an illegal good produced by a station will also trigger a police response when they scan it. should be 17 per ship. Dec 20, 00:49 [Feature Request] Destroying Ships in Self-Defense without Rep. Post by JackXx » Sat, 4. Moderator: Moderators for English X Forum. 36x Thermal disintegrator (have started to use 6 of these, they ignore shields). X4: Foundations > General Discussions > Topic Details. I just spend the last 6 hours trying with varied methods and ships to board a Rattlesnake with 34 crewman and 16 marines, i used the complete high-morale crew from my first builder = 200+ marines, and then another 70 from a hauler. Unclaimed sectors should be rep loss on each abandoning wave (if the bailers make it to a station alive) allied/neutral claimed sectors should be rep loss on attack with more loss on attacking the pods and owned sectors should be a bigger loss. No rep loss for any of them, and the Tokyo's when capped also gave me their load of fighters! Just don't try to cap any ship that is the lead ship of a small fleet. You will lose more marines but marines are cheap. Those control when the respective phase starts. You will also find additional information from developers here. X4: Foundations. Yet I also have to get it damaged enough to make enough crew bail that the marines don't have an impossible fight, so I. You will also find additional information from developers here. The lack of criminal mass traffic around their stations doesn't help when you need to gain rep. You will also find additional information from developers here. So it's actually bad to do it in your own sectors, as you have your assets. Moderator:. You lose rep with the faction you attack anyway, you just aren't losing rep twice. 11 posts. If you see an FRF Marauder and then scan it and it stays shown as FRF then attacking that ship will indeed lose you rep with the FRF - the very faction you are trying to improve your rep with. The rep system has too many points of rapidly escalating, unintended conflict in the course of expected use. Board it without damaging any of its systems and you won't suffer rep loss. This is wrong, wrong, wrong. Are the SCA reporting my actions, or what? Didn't see any distress drones launch. Gotta get close though, their guns will kill pods if too far away. This forum is the ideal place for all discussion relating to X4. rep loss for boarding ships is way too low. Post by pref » Sun, 6. Being able to take ships without any rep loss is a real problem, I try to not exploit it but it feels horrible to intentionally drop my rep even though I know I dont have to. Q: Three marines went stargazing instead of joining the other 2 as a team so the boarding fails. View Profile View Posts. 0, I usually had a pretty easy time of flying my Cobra, knocking down the shields of a SCA destroyer, knocking the hull down to about 50% & then just following them with a. For me, i usually use Shuyaku Vanguard with full marines crew for. JackXx Posts: 6 Joined: Thu, 2. rep loss for boarding ships is way too low. Moderator: Moderators for English X Forum. General discussions about the games by Egosoft including X-BTF, XT, X², X³: Reunion, X³: Terran Conflict and X³: Albion Prelude. The paranid auxiliary Atlas is 130m/s with paranoid engine but you can get the nudger mod to increase cruise speed and it. This forum is the ideal place for all discussion relating to X4. If doing the initial boarding phase yourself, pair it with a burst ray armed heavy fighter for stripping the components off the target ship for faster boarding. Moderator: Moderators for English X Forum. Jul 09, 22:46. I'm trying to cap an ANT freighter out in empty space (no stations of any kind at all near me). Moderator: Moderators for English X Forum. Boarding rep loss in unclaimed sector? So before the patch I would steal ships all day in nop's fortune without a rep hit but now i am, did something change? X4: Foundations > General Discussions > Topic Details. Feb 23, 16:31This forum is the ideal place for all discussion relating to X4. Takes some time though, and a bit of skill. Feb 23, 15:06. For further preparation order your m7m to follow the. Post by JackXx » Sat, 4. Post by pref » Sun, 6. Is that normal that boarding a ship in empty space gets me 26 rep loss? PMC will not get any more angry with me, after boarding 2 taranises and a fedhelm im still at -20. Post by JackXx » Sat, 4. The X4: Foundations 4. 5x the enemy boarding strength) you can board any ship anywhere without firing a shot. Posts: 5577 Joined: Sat, 10. You will also find additional information from developers here. It seemed like a good, because I needed reinforcements anyway since I'd sent a bunch of recruits into the meat grinder without realizing they were overmatched. 16 posts • Page 1 of 1. This forum is the ideal place for all discussion relating to X4. Rep was 28 after that destruction. Feb 23, 15:06. Re: Destroy Faction stations without lossing rep. Hello all! On the Argon vs Xenon missions, i received one where they ask me to board an Argon big ship. If you accept one or two long-time missionв (e. - For example. - You can board and steal ships from the SCA without rep loss, your rep with them is pegged to -5 always Good luck! EDIT: One more thing I forgot to mention. 16 posts • Page 1 of 1. 0 damage. Moderator: Moderators for English X Forum. My allies will blow up ships even while my marines are onboard, and I have to micro-manage my units to stop them from blowing up the target while the boarding is going on. This is wrong. Moderator: Moderators for English X Forum. I think boarding should be possible without rep loss if you're clever about it. And that's all there is to it. Jan 19, 16:48 Anyone knows exactly how much rep is lost during a. Feb 23, 16:31Yes i agree. You will also find additional information from developers here. You will also find additional information from developers here. 24 posts 1; 2; Next; Falcrack Posts: 4589 Joined: Tue, 28. <<snip>> Also, you dont need to destroy the engines. Is there a way to perform those actions with a minimal hit to my rep as I don't want to have to re-climb back up to +20?+ For allied rep loss, you must start in the 20+ not to turn an ally into enemy (rep =-10 or lower), and this assuming that you only do the following damage: - No hull damage - killed 2 engines + Jump Device - Killed the 5 required surface elements More shots at the hull == more rep loss, etc,. As I started shooting out sub-systs on the ANT freighter, I took permanent rep hit. Post by JackXx » Sat, 4. (or you don't) Btw, if you board a carrier with fighters docked, you. Moderator: Moderators for English X Forum. rep loss for boarding ships is way too low. 6M. Feb 23, 16:31I have lost rep with MIN in the past after destroying a confirmed Pirate that'd attacked my shipping. So. Feb 23, 15:06. You will also find additional information from developers here. Post by JackXx » Sat, 4. My allies will blow up ships even while my marines are onboard, and I have to micro-manage my units to stop them from blowing up the target while the boarding is going on. (they can be destroyed without rep loss…. Not getting rep loss from boarding POI ships sounds like a bug, might be specific to that faction or whatever ships are being boarded. Got 2 disabled SCA ships I'm working on capping and wanted to take the opportunity to also cap the ANT freighter they were harassing. Post by Tranxalive » Thu, 30. You can do cheese boarding, ie, fly by boarding were you can take anything if you patient enough, and you can do stealth boarding where you dont destroy any element on the target, without rep loss, easier on L Miners or traders with low crew capacity. With seasons coming in the future for Ventures I thought I would bring to light that the boarding exploit is still very much a thing. Nomad15A Dec 16, 2018 @ 5:08pm. X4: Foundations. You then get the "quest" to board. Post by JackXx » Sat, 4. 2. Loss. Get into your spacesuit and go over to the mines. Moderator: Moderators for English X Forum. rep loss for boarding ships is way too low. You will also find additional information from developers here. X4: Foundations. JackXx Posts: 6 Joined: Thu, 2. Post by JackXx » Sat, 4. 10 posts • Page 1 of 1. < >. Maybe check the builder ship what rsoures it has, you could cancel the build and redo it. Destroying station without rep loss (expensive, fun, overly elaborate) This is primarily about complicated ways one can have fun with X4 game mechanics. so it is intentional that boarding suffers less rep loss then even attacking said ship? just seems really weird that we can steal a flagship of an empire with no hit, at the very least should be equal to destroying said ship, if not alittle higher, i personally avoid abusing the fly by boarding method personally, though i am very active in piracy as i still. 10 posts • Page 1 of 1. Zaihbot • 1 yr. Board index. You will also find additional information from developers here. Loss. 6 posts • Page 1 of 1. Loth Crow May 8, 2022 @ 8:36am. You can slide up to any capital ship and board without attacking it (make sure the boarding is set to start at "Very Strong" shields and hull); the marines will fly over and take a few shots, but if you can get out of there and wait 5 minutes the reputation hit will reset and then you can follow the target meters away until the boarding is done. rep loss for boarding ships is way too low. Buy a ship full, re-supply, trash the less than one stars, rinse repeat. If you want the marines to board the ship while it's undamaged, you need to configure the two first parameters to "very strong". x, with and without Split vendetta. rep loss for boarding ships is way too low. Use this team to board non military ships. It is possible, but you can't shoot, attack or otherwise damage the ship you're boarding (or any of the surface elements), directly, indirectly or otherwise. That way, you keep good relations with both protectorate and yaki and you get a late end-game mission from dal to liberate the yaki systems from xenons (he called it a "small" task). The biggest issue in my game are Ministry of Finance and Fallen Families. You can board several targets after each other, even before the first operation finishes. Regarding boarding strength, it may be that you had way more crew than. Fleet boarding not progressing. Post by JackXx » Sat, 4. I'm trying to cap an ANT freighter out in empty space (no stations of any kind at all near me). Feb 23, 15:06. Graphics powered by a bit of cardboard with "graffiks" written on the side by a small child. This mod addresses several piracy gameplay-aspects in X4 that I really dislike. 16 posts • Page 1 of 1. it's part of the game play. Regarding this threads title, the rep loss for boarding ships is non-existant ;p You lose 0 rep for boarding a ship. Moderator: Moderators for English X Forum. This forum is the ideal place for all discussion relating to X4. This forum is the ideal place for all discussion relating to X4. Took me a long time to do that. Got the mission done without a rep lossAs long as you set the target to "very strong" the pods will launch, latch on, take a lot of time, but still penetrate the hull and do the boarding just fine. Mines. Step 1: Have a station (Preferrably fully terran) that can build XL ships. The free Odysseus is the best option but is is also possible to board a few large sized ships with one of the paranid M transports so as soon as you have a million you. Tranxalive Posts: 125 Joined: Mon, 14. Got 2 disabled SCA ships I'm working on capping and wanted to take the opportunity to also cap the ANT freighter they were harassing. This combined with careful deployment of marines lets you board a ship without suffering any rep penalties. I'm trying to cap an ANT freighter out in empty space (no stations of any kind at all near me). JackXx Posts: 6 Joined: Thu, 2. Feb 23, 15:06. You can slide up to any capital ship and board without attacking it (make sure the boarding is set to start at "Very Strong" shields and hull); the marines will fly over and take a few shots, but if you can get out of there and wait 5 minutes the reputation hit will reset and then you can follow the target meters away until the. "Act of war" action. rep loss for boarding ships is way too low. Moderator: Moderators for English X Forum. Additionally if you not yet finished Segaris plot you can use "Geometric Owl" to stip target of engine and turrets without rep hit. Post by pref » Sun, 6. Got 2 disabled SCA ships I'm working on capping and wanted to take the opportunity to also cap the ANT freighter they were harassing. ARG are at war with HOP and ZYA and will actually reward you for attacking their ships in ARG space but they won't like you attacking pretty much anyone else (maybe TER is fine because of the cold war relation but I'm not sure on that one). There are ways to board ships without rep loss, but they are rather complicated compared to intended way. I did multiple ship boarding a handfull of times and all of them were slaughterfests for my guys. You will also find additional information from developers here. 8M each. Rep loss from boarding. You will also find additional information from developers here. You can even board an Asgard without rep loss and sell it to the terrans. Select the bomb, right click it and select detonate all. So I decided to go capture some better ships. Therefore, the "undeclare" is just improving reputation by any means. This forum is the ideal place for all discussion relating to X4. This forum is the ideal place for all discussion relating to X4. rep loss for boarding ships is way too low. However, every so often I still get a rep loss when defending against Pirates in Teladi space. 0 HF3, this wasn't always the case) “Unauthorized kills” Unauthorized kills are detected anywhere in the universe. Moderator: Moderators for English X Forum. For example if you find a Mercury in argon prime, far from any other station or ship, you can attack it and take it without rep. You will lose some marines but you won't lose faction rep for engagement, and only that ship turns red to you. Yet I also have to get it damaged enough to make enough crew bail that the marines don't have an impossible fight, so I. Jun 20, 16:44. Don’t move and deploy all of the mines, teleport out of the ship and let the ai take control. Now, we know that the Teladi at least tolerate Pirates in their space and generally the player isn't punished for defending themselves against them. Yeah, ships shooting at pirates and enemies can hit friendly ships and stations, causing a rep loss that happens concurrently with the trade, which is why it shows a drop. - However, if the ship has no damage the time to start the actual boarding action of the marines vs crew takes MINUTES. You will also find additional information from developers here. ) I can generally find 2 or 3 L miners and traders in those two sectors alone within half an hour or even less with SETA LirukDatan • 3 yr. get 1+⭐️marines at Split or VIG shipyards. Are the SCA reporting my actions, or what? Didn't see. You will also find additional information from developers here. But if you do manage to catch one alone… a free XL ship is typically worth any rep loss. If target can comm with friendlies and give us rep loss for firing - target must can report about crew killing! But without total rebalance of boarding ops, this issue can be fixed by removing "Very hard" option in boarding. This is wrong. 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